TLI: Quality Counts

02.09.12 | Cecil Van Houten

A new Education Week survey looks at schools across the country and ranks the states on things such as teacher compensation, classroom size, graduation rates and more. Dr. Ralph Kerr of the Teaching & Learning Institute talks with Cecil about the results of the survey for New York and Pennsylvania schools. You can read more at Dr. Kerr's blog at


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on 02.09.12 Anonymous commented

Dr. Ralph Kerr could not be more wrong with some of his numbers in the following areas: test results, classroom size, teacher's salary.
1) The testing system has expectations that even well educated adults have a difficult time acheiving the "perfect" scores that NY state is expecting. Has Dr. Kerr ever looked at a test? And how they are graded? Or what about the 2009-2010 school year when New York State teachers did meet test score expectations only to have New York State Ed. department change the cut-off scores? The classroom size mentioned here is misleading. If you walk into a public school, you will see classrooms of 20-30 studeents. When you average in the special education classrooms of only 4-8 students, then you might come up with this "average".
2)Teacher's are required in New York State to have a Master's degree. Some of the occupations mentioned, such as nursing and accounting, only have to hold an associates degree or bachelor's degree to earn a similiar salary. The problem in our public schools is that teachers are responsible for teaching without students or parents being accountable. Not all learning is done in school.