Pastor Chat: Gay Marriage

02.13.12 | Jay LaScolea


Washington state joins 6 other states, including New York, and the District of Columbia by legalizing same-sex marriage. Last week a judge ruled in California that Proposition 8... The referendum that was approved by voters that defines marriage between one man and one woman... was ruled unconstitutional.  Come November there will be a number of other states that will put the gay marriage issue before voters. Joining me now for this week's "Pastor Chat" is Pastor Jeff McDowell from Centenary United Methodist Church in Bath, New York.  After listening to the podcast, join in on the discussion below.

Key Bible Passages about Homosexuality


Your Comments(please keep them on topic and polite)

on 02.13.12 James commented

I'd be interested to hear the guest pastor's claims about homosexual marriage being a civil right. It seems this is where the debate is now headed. Is marriage a civil or religious institution.

on 02.13.12 Bob commented

Great discussion today. I really think this is the next great cultural war for the church to struggle with. I thought pastor Jeff handled this issue with great insight and explayed Christ-like love throughout. Well done

on 02.13.12 Robert commented

Is there scientific evidence to proof that children do better in heterosexual households? If the purpose of marriage is to have a family - wouldn't sociologists be interested in discussing the child-rearing aspect to this. It's worth pursuing, I think.

on 02.13.12 Trevor commented

Good Job today Jay and Bob ... the guest pastor did an excellent job explaining what the Bible says about homosexuality ...

on 02.13.12 Trevor commented

Good Job today Jay and Bob ... the guest pastor did an excellent job explaining what the Bible says about homosexuality ...

on 02.13.12 Deeply Saddened commented

Up until now, I have enjoyed listening to FLN, and it has certainly helped me on my path to rediscovering God and his Word. Today's broadcast, however, deeply saddened me. The guest pastor's claims that science has not proven that sexual orientation is decided during prenatal development is, as we have known for several years now, simply not true. While science has not identified a "gay gene," it is well documented that prenatal hormones definitely play a role in sexual development and orientation.

We need to remember that only a little over thirty years ago homosexuality was thought of as a mental illness, and was often treated with such crude methods as shock therapy. All through those tumultuous times homosexuals claimed, over and over, that they were born "that way," but the psychiatric community shrugged it off and continued to attempt new "cures." Now we are beginning to find evidence that an area of the hypothalamus (found in the brain) is larger in homosexuals than the corresponding region in in heterosexuals, and that prenatal androgens and estrogen (which affect the developing hypothalamus) play a strong role in dictating a person's sexual orientation. In other words, despite what pastor McDowell claims, they really *are* born "that way."

If the good pastor feels that homosexuality is unnatural,then how does he explain the more the seventy different varieties of birds that are documented to choose a same-sex partner for life, while still indulging in heterosexual coitus for both procreational and recreational purposes (ie; not during a normal mating period)? Are they not God's creatures as well?

Finally, if the pastor cannot understand why people have long accused "Christians [..] of "gay bashing"" and continue to do so, then he need look no further than his own mirror for the reason why, as this was nothing more than a thinly veiled attempt to denegrate a group of God's children that he does not understand, nor wish to. Perhaps the pastor should focus more on religion and less on science, as the latter is clearly not his chosen field of expertise.

As for me, I am now at a personal crossroads myself: How can I continue to listen to and support a station that allows people to spread lies to further their own, personal, homophobic agenda?

on 02.13.12 Pastor Jeff McDowell commented

Folks; I am sorry but this is such a large subject for only an 8 minute interview; I do hope folks look at the list of Bible passages I have posted on this site and put things into a larger context. It actually is a political, social, psychological, spiritual and moral subject and there are many implications for what we believe and how we treat others. Let us all be in prayer and study to be pleasing to God on this subject!

on 02.13.12 Deeply Saddened commented

Pastor McDonald, you are a true example of Grace in the face of adversity. I regret that I was so harsh in my reaction to your broadcast, and I appreciate your reminder that it is about how we treat others. Please forgive my abruptness, and may God keep you and bless you and yours always!

on 02.13.12 Jay LaScolea commented

As the host of "Pastor Chat" I would like to say our mission for this segment is to take a topic in the news and current culture and look at it through the biblical lens. Each one of the pastors on the panel will encourage the listener to read the scriptures for themselves. In fact, this week we have listed the Bible passages Pastor Jeff referenced during "Pastor Chat" as a link at the top of this comment page. Our ultimate goal for "Pastor Chat" is to approach each topic in the Christian spirit of truth, grace and love. We also want to give you the opportunity to comment each week through this forum at Thank you all for taking part in this discussion.

on 02.15.12 Juan and Karen commented

Pastor Jeff,

We Love you and admire you so much! We were glad to hear your podcast all the way here in Southern California! We agree with all boils down to showing Grace and Love to one another.

on 02.15.12 Rev. Carl Kemp commented

1 Timothy 1:10 for adulterers and perverts, for slave traders and ...

... The law is for people who are sexually immoral, or who practice homosexuality, or
are slave traders, liars, promise breakers, or who do anything else that ...

1 Corinthians 6:9 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit ...

Don't fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or
commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality ...

Leviticus 18:22 "'Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman ...
"Do not practice homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman. ...
Leviticus 20:13 "'If a man lies with a man as one lies with a ...

... "If a man practices homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a
woman, both men have committed a detestable act. They must ...

To let lies from so called pastor's be boardcasted on a Christian Radio station is sick. Yes God said to Love people BUT we are to HATE the sin. Homosexual people are SIN SICK and need prayer NOT encourage to keep it up. I feel sad that when you stand before God He is NOT going to say well done. I to well have to look at NOT support this station anymore.

on 02.17.12 Jay LaScolea commented

Rev. Kemp,

Thank you for taking the time to comment on this week's "Pastor Chat". I don't know if you have had the opportunity to listen to the podcast, but I would encourage you to do so if you haven't. You will also notice at the top of this page a web link for you to view the Bible verses Pastor Jeff references regarding this issue. You will find a number of the scripture verses Pastor Jeff references, you also reference. Again, thank you for taking the time for being a part of this week's "Pastor Chat" discussion.

Jay LaScolea
Host of "Pastor Chat"